stuart: theme of the day in the market, everything is up. dow up 150. nasdaq up 52. helping me through the last hour, heather zumarraga. thank you very much indeed, heather. you're a great help organizing the last hour of our broadcast. we'll see you again soon. >> good to be here, thanks, stu. stuart: see you soon. my time is up this thursday morning but neil, sir, it is yours. neil: all right. thank you very much, my friend. focusing on stocks that are up but again much of the northeast that remains underwater and trying to clean up right now, that is a lot easier said than done. we're just getting word right now that delta air lines have seen roughly 80 cancellations across the new york city area. the airports are pretty handicapped. they're getting some flooding too, especially at newark international airport. 370 separate flights have been canceled of all carriers. it doesn't end there.

the power was knocked out for more than 200,000 customers in places as diverse as pennsylvania, new jersey, new york and connecticut. already we've got word of at least 22 killed in this latest wave of storms. that does not include some of the deaths we had tragically in louisiana when ida was just starting. and she is apparently a long ways from being punished, now gunning for new england. we expect to hear from the president of the united states on this very, very shortly, what he is doing in coordination with federal agencies including fema. meantime to david lee miller in passaic, new jersey, which was hit particularly hard by this storm as well. david lee? reporter: that's right, neil. like the flood itself the death toll as you rightly point out, only continues to rise. here in passaic, you can see the flooding for yourself. we are on the other side of route 21 near the passaic river.

much of this water, there is at least six-inches of water i'm standing in, thankfully in waders, appears to be water from the sewage system that is being pushed back out on to the street. this has been the situation here for the last several hours. the water level here is not receding. it only continues to rise. at least five people in passaic have died because of this storm. that number might be significantly higher if not for the heroic efforts of first-responders. in one instance two people were killed from a partially submerged car. a third person though was swept away and, let me pause briefly, overhead there is a helicopter that just went by. it seems to be following the route of the passaic river, neil. we understand they are looking to see if there may be more people swept away into the river. but as i was saying there have

been more deaths in new jersey. at least four lives lost in the nearby city of elizabeth, in an apartment complex. a husband, a wife, a son as well as a neighbor. and in addition to all of the flooding, the storm brought with it at least one tornado that touched down. ashley thomas sought refuge along with their family in their home's basement. they barely got out alive, at a news conference joined by the governor she described her ordeal. >> it was like a war zone. everywhere the ambulance went they would slam on the brakes because there was a wire down or a tree. our community was destroyed in five seconds. that is all it took. reporter: also in dire straits is montgomery county, north of philadelphia. it was also ravaged by the storm. at least three people there or four people we are told have

been killed. a husband, wife, son and a neighbor there. now the area, the region still devastated. many roads still impassable. a number of bridges we are told have been severely damaged by the storm. one of them destroyed. there was flooding as you point out at newark airport. at least one hospital was flooded because of the aftermath of hurricane ida. neil underscoring the severity of what happened here, this community where i'm now standing, passaic, new jersey, experienced more than eight inches of rain during the storm. the folks who live here say the situation now is worse than hurricane sandy. neil. neil: wow, just amazing. david lee, thank you very much. david lee miller following all of that. tell you this was unprecedent ad couple other ways, for the first time the city issued a flash flood emergency. you usually get that in the

hinterlands, normally not alone in the premier city of the united states of america. the warnings are for more dire rainfall conditions. the fact of matter they had no way to grab the enormity of all of this. we also told you about these deaths. a good many of them, disproportionately were in the queens, new york, area. where you find our bryan llenas right now with the latest. bryan. i apologize, no bryan yet. all right. we're going to grady trimble right now. he is in louisiana where you might say a lot of those folks are saying, been there, been dealing with this. we got the added complications of finding gas difficult to get and also power difficulty to get, right? reporter: neil, gas is extremely scarce right now. more than 65% of gas stations here in new orleans as well as in baton rouge have no fuel whatsoever. so when you see a gas station

that does have fuel, what you see also with that is extremely long lines. this one goes as far as the eye can see with people waiting between 40 minutes to two hours for fuel. i want to show you a time lapse video we took. we walked entire length of the line t took five minutes to get down it. the governor says the lack of fuel is causing major problem in the recovery efforts that are underway here. the other issue, there are still more than 900,000 customers without power in louisiana. that is just about the same number as yesterday. i caught up with senator bill cassidy as he was touring the damage down here and we talked about what needs to be done to improve the power grid here and elsewhere for severe weather like this. can more be done to prepare the grid sew when a storm moves through it is not catastrophic like this. >> absolutely.

that is the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed the senate is now before the house. there is 65 billion for the grid. 3.5 billion specifically to harden against natural disasters reporter: and for the fifth day in a row now there are very few flights if any at all leaving out out of the new orleans airport or coming into that airport. they're still keeping people out of the city, out of their homes. so some people haven't even been back from their evacuations to come inspect the damage. i also want to touch on the national average for fuel because a lot of the nation's refining capacity takes place in louisiana but many of those refineries went off-line because of the storm and at least eight of them at the peak of the storm according to the governor. so the national average from a week ago to today has gone up about four cents a gallon. one final note is a little bit of good news, there is electricity in this area, so they are slowly restoring power.

also just got word that there is power back on in the french quarter too, neil. neil: now it is interesting where you are because the president, we're waiting to hear from momentarily i might rudely interrupt you, my friend. he is to visit louisiana tomorrow, that is still on, right? reporter: as of right now it is because it will be interesting to hear what he says because obviously there is extremely bad situation in the northeast as well now. in fact this were more deaths in that area because of the flooding than here. neil: all right. thank you very, very much. grady trimble following all of those developments in louisiana. as i said we're moment or so away from hearing from the president. i want to try to squeeze in casey stiegel though. he has been following all of this, getting a good drone tour of all the damage pretty widespread in louisiana. what can you tell us, casey? reporter: neil, it is incredible, fox news was invited up for an exclusive ride with

army corps engineers top brace and state officials in a black hawk helicopter. we spent much of yesterday in the air flying to all of the hardest hit locations in southeast louisiana. the arm corps of engineer leader here is meeting with local officials on the ground, state leaders, also military counterparts. this aerial survey of louisiana's communities gives them better perspective of the work that needs to be done, what type of equipment is needed, like, large generators. and also how to best meet the needs of the victims. among the top priorities, getting rid of standing water that is still in places, listen. >> there are other places where we need to go south of new a liens, we will go in and cut a levee, to help the water get back into the river. we'll patch it right back up again. reporter: really from above it gives you the scope of how large

this disaster is. neil, back to you and the president. neil: thank you very much for that, casey. as you said the president is addressing this right now. might hint what his travel plans are and he will visit right now. joe biden. >> we saw more than three inches of rain per hour fall in central park. the united states national weather service issued a flood emergency in manhattan, brooklyn, queens, the bronx, staten island and parts of long island last night. this is the first time that such a warning has ever been issued for the city. people were trapped in the subways but heroic men and women of new york fire department rescued all of them. they were trapped. we're seeing the same story of devastation and heroism across new jersey and pennsylvania as well. for now 11 people in new york and new jersey died because of the storm. i want to express my heartfelt thanks to all of the

first-responders and everyone who has been working through the night, well into the morning to save lives and get power back. there is a lot of damage. i made clear to the governors that my team at the federal emergency management agency, fema, is on the ground ready to provide all assistance that is needed. in fact, our fema director, administrator, deanna gristwell was the chief federal response officer after superstorm sandy in 2012. she knows what to do. last night after the request of california governor newsom i approved a emergency declaration for california for the calder fire burning aggressively toward the lake tahoe basin and nevada. it is one of the first fires that ever burned from one side of the sierra nevada range to

the other. so far it has burned more than 200,000-acres. tens of thousands of people had to evacuate their homes. the fire is threatening close to 35,000 structures and more than 4400 firefighters from the state and my federal team are working to contain and suppress this raging wildfire. the department of defense has trained and is deploying additional firefighters to support our ongoing firefighting efforts in california. this disaster declaration will help with the evacuation including sheltering and feeding for those who have been displaced. i want you to know, i've seen the firefighters up close. their courage is astounding. they're some of the bravest people i have ever known. i've known a lot of them. my heart goes out to them. my changes, abundant thanks for what they do. i want to provide an update on

our efforts to help millions of efforts down south recover and rebuild from hurricane ida. we've been monitoring the hurricane closely around the devastation it has caused. to date six deaths, about a million homes without power in louisiana and mississippi, while the catastrophic flooding wasn't as severe as it was during hurricane katrina 16 years ago, ida was so powerful it caused the mississippi river literally to change direction, the flow, change the flow temporarily. the good news is that as a result of significant multibillion-dollar federal investment in the levee system around metro new orleans it held. it was strong. it worked. but too many people and too many areas are still unprotecterred and saw storm surge of flooding that was devastating. we've seen the reports of winds up to 170 miles an hour. its ha has not been confirmed

yet by fema, but 170 miles an hour causing unimaginable damage with debris and downed power lines making roads impassable, slowing response efforts to save folks and property. now the people continue to shelter in place. tomorrow, i will be traveling to louisiana to meet with governor john bel edwards as well as the parish presidents and mayors and local officials representing affected areas. governor edwards encouraged me to come and assured me that my visit will not disrupt recovery efforts on the ground. that is what i wanted to be sure of. my message to everyone affected is we're all in this together. the nation is here to help. that's the message i've been making clear to the mayors, governors, energy and utility leaders in the region who, my administration has been working closely with over the past few days. working with governors in the

area, even before ida made landfall, i issued emergency declarations to for louisiana and mississippi to help us respond quickly. fema prepositioned more than 4.3 million meals and more than 3 million liters of water and other critical resources in the region before it hit. we deployed more than 250 generators. we're working getting more into the area especially hospitals in desperate need for them. the department of health and human services deployed, a 250 bed federal medical shelter in new orleans and five medical assistance teams available throughout the state. since the hurricane hit more than 6,000 members about the national guard have been activated in louisiana, mississippi, alabama and texas and other states to support search-and-rescue and recovery efforts. for those who have lost their

homes states have been working with the american red cross to open almost 50 shelters across the gulf coast. we know there is much to be done in this response on our part. we need to get power restored. we need more food, fuel, water deployed. i get hourly updates from the progress of fema well into the night. we'll be working around the clock until the critical needs of the region are fully met. we will meet them. even as we tackle the core elements of disaster response we're also deploying new tools to help speed this recovery. things that have not been used very much in prior hurricane responses. working with private companies that own and operate the lifeline infrastructure, like electricity and communications. we've used the latest technology to accelerate restoration of power and cell phone service. it is beginning to get back up. it's a long way to go.

for example, to minimize the amount of time it will take to get the power back to everyone i have directed the federal aviation commission, the faa, to authorize the use of surveillance drones to assist ida's damage, to assess ida's damage to energy infrastructure while insuring those flights do not disrupt aerial search-and-rescue missions. likewise i've asked the pentagon, the department of homeland security, the department of energy, to immediately make available any satellite imagery they can help provide in assessing the extent of the damage. drones and satellites can make the work faster by getting to places that are most desperately in need. they can identify where the lines are down, map the damage, help get the transmission lines back up and running and all the parishes. people, hard-working people, through the complicated and dangerous work. there are more than 25,000

linemen and clearance crews from 32 states and district of columbia, racing to restore power. in alabama, two have died on the job. this is complicated and really dangerous work but we're moving as fast as humanly possible to get it done. this is important to know that the region hit by ida is the key center of our nation's oil production and refining infrastructure. that's why we're not waiting to assess the full impact the storm will have on oil production and refineries. we're moving already quickly to increase the availability of gas and easing the pressure on gas prices around the country. i've directed the secretary of energy, jennifer granholm to use all of the tools at her disposal including using the strategic petroleum reserve to keep gas flowing to the pumps. in order to get critical

supplies to the region, to beat the pandemic i have directed the department of transportation to renew an energy declaration to provide flexibility on how many hours a truck driver can drive. most people don't know there is a limitation on number of drivers you can be on the road but transportation department is broadening that emergency declaration to include transportation of gasoline and other types of fuel as well in addition to medical supplies and food. in addition the environmental protection agency has approved emergency waivers for louisiana and mississippi that will expand the supply of gasoline that can be sold in those states and increased availability at such a critical time. these actions should help reduce the risk of gas shortages and price increases as a result of the hurricane. we also know a lot of people lost cell phone service because

their particular carrier's tower went down or got damaged. a few days ago i asked the federal communications commission, the fcc, and my white house team to work with the cell phone companies to allow customers to use roaming services. so that means that folks in the area should be able to get a signal no matter what carrier -- if their one carrier is down, they can roam use another carrier they're not part of or signed up with. think of the sons and daughters and moms and dads, loved ones trying to reach each other, the feeling of fear, maybe something happened just because they can't, because the cell phone is not working. think of the millions of people reaching out for help. this is important and it's critical. now, a lot of private companies and public entity are doing their part. today i'm calling on insurance companies, not to evade their responsibility to keep the

priorities they made to their customers and promises they made and help some folks who are hurting. here's the deal. fema is providing critical assistance, for example, to help the hotel bill you racked up because you couldn't stay in your home because of the hurricane. the department of housing and urban affairs, hud, is also offering assistance to families in impacted areas. but right now we're hearing reports of some insurance companies may deny coverage for additional living assistance expense unless the homeowner was under a mandatory evacuation order. so people paid their insurance premiums, they're supposed to get payments from their insurance companies for relocation costs but insurance companies, in the face of the strongest storm since 1850, say no, no, we're not going to pay you what we owe you because the

fact is parishes in louisiana, like new orleans and st. johns issued a voluntary evacuation ordered a first, may not even have had enough time to make a manadatory one as the storm moved in so fast. other parishes, voluntary evacuation order suggested that residents could try to protect themselves by sheltering in place against the ferocious winds. we can all understand why folks felt safest leaving homes and going elsewhere out of the path of a devastating storm. no one, no one fled this killer storm because they were looking for a vacation or road trip, able to stay in a hotel. they left their homes because they felt it was flee or risk death. nothing voluntary about that. so i'm calling on the private insurance companies right now, at this critical moment, don't hide behind the fine print and

technicality. do your job. keep your commitments to your communities that you insure. do the right thing and pay your policyholders what you owe them to cover the cost of temporary housing in the midst of a national disaster. help those in need. that is what all of us need to do. that is what we're trying to do. fema has pushed out $77 million to the people of louisiana so far, individuals. my message to the people of the gulf coast, i'm going to visit tomorrow, we are here for you. we're making sure the response and recovery is equitable so those hit hardest get resources they need, and are not left behind. whether you're a homeowner, a renter, a parent, a small business owner, no matter who you are, if you live in an affected area, please visit

disaster assistance.gov. go online, disaster assistance.gov, to find help now. that is disasterassistance.gov. or call 1-800-621-fema. 1-800-621-fema. that is 1-700 h 621-3362. there is help you can qualify for right away. i asked my senior advisor cedric richmond, new orleans neighbor, former congressman louisiana second district for 10 years to lead this relief effort. he knows the area. he no es the people, he knows how to get things done. he knows they get things done when local, state and federal level are all working together alongside the private sector.

the people of louisiana, mississippi, are resilient and resourceful. we're going to stand with you for as long as it takes to recover and allow you to rebuild. and to the country, the past few days of hurricane ida and the wildfires in the west and unprecedented flash floods of new york and new jersey is north reminder that these extreme storms and the climate crisis are here. we need to be much better prepared. we need to act. when congress returns this month i'm going to press for their action on my build back better plan. that is going to make historic investments in electrical infrastructure, modernizing our roads, bridges, our water systems, sewer and drainage systems, electric grids and transmission lines and make them more resilient to these super

storms and wildfires and floods if they're going to happen with increasing frequency and ferocity. we're reminded that this isn't about politics. hurricane ida didn't care if you were a democrat or a republican, rural or urban. it is destruction is everywhere and it is a matter of life and death and we're all in this together. this is one of the great challenges of our time but i'm confident we'll meet it. we're the united states of america and there is simply nothing, you heard me say it before, nothing beyond our capacity when we work together. for all those still in harm's way. all those struggling to deal with their aftermath of these storms and fires, say god bless you, keep the faith, every one working day and night to look out for their fellow americans is what this is about, we're going to get this done. thank you. [reporters shouting questions]

neil: all right, the president not taking any questions there saying he directed the energy department among others to use all tools including tapping the strategic petroleum reserve to keep the gas flowing. there have been gas shortages and some sporadic lines in some states in louisiana that hopes to be addressing with that kind of aid. secondly he talked about insurance companies doing a little bit more, not following the necessary contracts to the exact letter but if you cover people, cover them for this, don't wait or use the excuse of an emergency or disaster wasn't declared. that comes back almost every time we have something of this severe and a lot of policyholders left wondering, what was paying for? the president did make it clear as well that he is going to be going to louisiana tomorrow. didn't indicate whether he might visit some of these other states affected. who would have thought that it would be the northeast that would see the most deaths and

indeed a good chunk of the damage and costly damage at that. flooding that continues to make subway service in the new york metropolitan area next to impossible and travel on some roads still impassable. we've got a lot going on here with all of this, bryan llenas, guys, is in queens, new york, we had a good many death the out of queens, new york, area, unthinkable as that might seem. bryan can tell you more. reporter: neil, good afternoon. at least nine people died in new york city from yesterday's her toys already torrential rainfall. here in eight and nine residential areas in queens. they were all in basement and apartment dwellings like this one. a mother and a son died in that basement last night. four feet of water came rushing inside killing a 22-year-old man and a 43-year-old mother. the family obviously just besides themselves.

a father and another son managed to escape but those two did not. just 10 miles away three people died including a two-year-old boy, again similar situation. flash flooding within minutes inundating their bear. apartment. kathy hochul, governor the new york spoke at this site just about an hour ago, and she said this rainfall which is a record, three inches of rain per hour in new york city caught everybody off guard. listen. >> but we did not know that between 8:50 and 9:50 p.m. last night that the heavens would literally open up and bring niagra falls level water to the streets of new york. could that have been anticipated? i want to find out. reporter: well, meteorologists an forecasters are pushing back against those comments saying the national weather service had been predict excessive rainfall with high-risk of flash flooding for a couple days at least before ida's remnants hit the area. we're talking about subway stations completely unindated,

17 trains were stuck during the time. the nation's largest subway system completely shut down which is unheard of the first national, the first flood emergency warning was sent out of new york city. that had never been done before in this city yesterday. we're talking about 3.15 inches of rain in central park yesterday in a single hour that broke a record that was made just about 11 days ago when henri dumped 1.9-inches of water per hour. so we're talking about something we have not really seen here before. this morning in westchester county they were still rescuing people off, from their homes with boats and with even machinery, construction machinery to get people out but again a lot of conversation here about picking up and also families continuing to really start their morning. neil? neil: buyian, thank you very much for that, bryan llenas. i noticed what bryan noticed politicians came out, there was no warning, to what was going

on, i'm not exactly a weatherman but i have a smartphone and those, it was flashing all day yesterday and well into the night about flash flood alerts for the new york and new jersey, pennsylvania, connecticut metropolitan areas. they kept gnashing, so much so you couldn't turn the darn thing off. i don't know where a lot of these politicians are coming saying there was no immediate warning or that they were caught off-guard. they weren't. millions of people knew. maybe they didn't. more after this.

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♪. neil: man, one of those days. so many storms, so little time. one we're talking about is afghanistan. we are out, taliban is in control. it is not going so smoothly for them at this point trying to get a new government up and running

and some financial support for the world. that is a bit of a bumpy process. trey yingst in doha, qatar with more. trey. reporter: neil, good afternoon. i've got some new details for you. a source familiar tells fox news a second qatari technical team landed today in kabul to discuss resuming operations at the hamid karzai international airport. that source describing the conversations with afghanistan's civil aviation authority as ongoing at the level of security and operation. right now the focus for the qataris is getting that airport up and running, not only for humanitarian assistance but also to resume those critical evacuation flights. now this comes as the new rulers of afghanistan, the taliban, are continuing their victory lap. yesterday in the second largest afghan city of kandahar the group held a military parade with u.s.-made equipment. one video showed a helicopter flying over while dangling a taliban flag. there are reports for a massive ceremony at the presidential

palace in kabul when the new government is in place. in the afghan capital, taliban fighters held their own independence day celebration while in other parts of the country, the taliban is allegedly executing military and political opponents. this comes as americans remain trapped in afghanistan and the pentagon so opening the door to work with the taliban to combat terrorism. general mark millly said it is possible to work with the taliban on these efforts. the threat of isis-k remains and as they look for land operations for people trapped in afghanistan, a riskier option than flying out. the negotiations with the taliban they have a unique leverage over the group that the biden administration simply does not have. neil: thank you, trey. that is wild stuff. trey yingst with all of that. go to congressman peter meijer, he claims this is situation is bad one going from bad to worse.

he flew to afghanistan this beak. he says congress needs to reclaim more power, authority. congressman, very good to have you. could you explain what that would involve? >> absolutely, neil. i think this conflict would have looked very differently if say every two years each member of congress had to affirmatively say we should continue or we should stop our mission in afghanistan, not just the questions they would be forced to ask the administration but the answers every administration would have to cliff, the clarity they would have to provide. i think it is essential we get back to the constitutional basis so we do not let the conflicts spin out of control with the mission creep and drift we've seen. neil: you have expressed concern about the rest of the folks we left behind and whether they will ever come out now that our soldiers are gone. how do you think that goes? the administration has expressed confidence in the taliban that it will allow these various services to do just that. i don't see anything hinting of that of the taliban but i could

be missing something. you were there. you know what the conditions were like before everyone left. what do you think? >> yeah. i mean obviously utterly chaotic at the gates. soldiers around marines who were identifying who needed to be rescued and trying to get them through did everything they could but the chaos could have, should have been prevent fred the outset by the biden administration. when it comes to what we do about those who are left behind it is very easy if you're sitting in an air-conditioned office in washington, d.c., to trust the assurances of the taliban. if you're on the ground, if you're hearing stories of people getting pulled out of their houses and executed that is not something you want to bank on. you don't want to bank on that mercy, more likely than not are just empty promises of amnesty on behalf of the taliban. we're working continuously getting american citizens, permanent residents, loyal afghan allies on the mission out. it is increasingly difficult we do not have the airport open.

i'm optimistic that qatar and turk differ will reopen it. hopefully the taliban will permit folks to leave. all we can do on that front is hope and work on contingency options if that is not the case. neil: congressman, you served your country very honorably. so when you heard those in leadership criticizing your trip and fellow congressman's trip, i'm curious what you made of that, whether you would do it again, because they don't want any congressman of any party to do that? >> no. again, sorry. yeah, our goal was to be bipartisan in this approach to get on the ground as quietly as quickly as possible to accomplish our oversight mission to better understand how we could support the evacuation efforts and filter information who needed to be rescued to the right people at the right time because again our soldiers, marines, sailors, airmen they were put in an impossible position. when it came to the backlash i was frankly not surprised.

this administration has tried to control the narrative. they do not want this to be the focus. they want to get back to a domestic agenda, $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation, to all the other components frankly president biden cares a whole heck of a lot more about than the future of afghanistan and the people we're leaving behind. neil: all right. democratic congressman who traveled with you said essentially the same thing. sir, thank you very much. good seeing you. be safe. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right. so what do we do right now? we'll keep you updated on afghanistan and taliban's request for insurgent control. we'll update you on that later in the show. updating you now on growing concerns about travel, if you're not vaccinated, the cdc says it is not a good idea this labor day weekend. they didn't order you not to leave your house. they kind of told you we don't want you to leave your house, what will you do if you're not vaccinated after this?

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♪. neil: all right. unwind if you're unvaccinated but do the unwinding at home because the cdc has its way you really shouldn't be traveling at all this labor day weekend, that it is risky. that would be a good point to pick up with dr. marty makary. we know the good doctor, john hopkins university professor, officer of public health, author of the price we pay. i remind people it was written way, way before any of this covid stuff was eerily prescient. that was then. this is now. doctor, doctor, this demand, more like a strong urging for the unvaccinated to not travel. what do you think? >> i think the cdc guidance assumes a even level of risk in the population, that is not true. first of all those with natural immunity have better protection than those vaccinated. that is longstanding denial of

the cdc. if you have natural immunity i think that advisory doesn't appie to you. if you have risk factors if you're an adult, over age 30, 40, maybe you want to be careful if you have no immunity right now because delta is very contagious. if you have very low risk, you know what? maybe there is good reasons to travel. maybe people you're going to see are dealing with loneliness which is a problem in of itself. i don't think it's a homogenous level of risk in the population. neil: the vaccination rates are moving up a little bit. we're you know, maybe a lot of people have heard so much about this and they're scared into it or read what is happening and they get it but the vaccination rates have picked up a little bit, to the point that even in states that look worrisome for a while, hospitalizations in florida that are declining, icu beds are opening up in states that once were seeing significant spikes, what do you think is going on here? >> i think to get a sense what the future holds in the next several months, neil, we can

look at states that got first hit hard with delta. those were missouri, arkansas, some other states like texas and florida and in those states right now you do see a contracting epidemic. arkansas is about 10% off its highs. missouri which got hit first is about 20% off its highs. florida is down. texas is probably at a plateau right now about to turn down. we're seeing the rate of the expansion of the epidemic in other states including in the north start to decrease, that is the rate of growth, it is going down so we're seeing an end in sight. other places are lag behind still on the incline right now. south carolina, tennessee, kentucky, alabama, they are right now still going straight up it is not looking good right there right now. neil: there is also the push for masks, doctor. this mask guilt you hear those who have been vaccinated still put on a mask, in some states required i get that other times

they feel they want to do that to be polite, what do you think of that? >> you know it is really hard to watch these massive wars over masks and mask mandates in the united states right now. it's tragic. our battle is not putting a cloth mask on a 3-year-old. our battle is the non-immune adults are dying at rate of 1000 a day. we need to encourage them to get vaccinated. on the mask issue. i don't wear a mask. i have had two doses of vaccine three months apart, most effective more than three or four weeks apart. i don't wear a mask unless i'm in a public area where i might be around non-vaccinateed people. neil: right. i will follow whatever you're doing, doctor. it seems to be working. dr. marty makary, professor of public health. i want you to read the book, not just for your benefits but for all of our benefits the issues he was spotting long before

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private payrolls versus 600,000 that was estimated. that was half than what was estimated, right? there are over 10 million jobs available right now. in '08, 09 during the great recession, two to four million at any point in time. we're over 2 1/2 times the job openings back then. companies are struggling to find employees. chicago are using uber and lyft because they can't find bus drivers. the school district. the restaurant has been hiring over a year down the street more fee and think can't find workers if they don't fix this soon, it is not good for the long term economy. neil: amazon wants to hire 40,000, fidelity, 9,000, walmart, 20,000. planning to hire around finding folks you can hire are very different things, aren't they? >> well this is a big disconnect from wall street to main street, right, neil? wall street is growing.

we're having record earnings. seeing all-time highs in the stock market almost every single day, right? main street, they're just surviving right now. wall street took market share from the little guys, in doing so they're hiring more people with higher wages, right? many think this is a good thing because people are making more money but there is a negative side to it as well. if there is a thing called wage inflation we haven't seen fully yet, this crushes small business. so, 15-dollar minimum wage amazon is paying, 12-dollar wage that the small business down the seat is paying. nobody will work for the small business, right? the thing is this is okay for tree free markets to work efficiently t wasn't okay for the free markets to work efficiently. this happened so fast it is not good for small business. it makes real inflation worse so hurts americans pockets because the cost of goods goes up because the cost to produce them goes up as well, right. neil: and for the workers themselves. the price for those workers.

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neil: all right, the aftermath from the storm really walloped the northeast from ida. in the northeast alone, 20 are now known dead. they're still looking for a lot of missing people as well, flooding most pronounced in cities like trenton, new jersey, in the too far from where a tornado touched down. some damage from if -- from that tornado, that's not the kind of thing you usually see. we're also trying to get the very latest right now on the president's push the get relief on theone surprise from his announcement a little over 45 minutes ago, the notion of opening up the strategic petroleum reserve the get more oil out to folks, maybe forcibly open up gas stations because they can't get their hands on gas that has caused long gas

lines, particularly in louisiana. although that's toned down a little bit. edward lawrence on what the president's other plans are including a visit scheduled to louisiana tomorrow. >> reporter: hey, neil. the people at the white house are watching those unbelievable pictures out of the northeast, seeing the death and destruction, the flooding that has happened there. president biden saying that the administration will do everything that needs to be done, and hay will stay there until -- they will stay there until it is actually finished. listen to this. >> we know that there is much to be done in this response on our part. we need to get power restored. we need to get more food, fuel is and water deployed. i get hourly updates on the progress we fema well into the night, and we'll be working around the clock until the critical needs of the regioning are fully met. >> reporter: now, he called out the insurance companies as part of this for denying coverage, telling them to step up and help and don't hide behind the fine print particularly in the south.

the president spoke with leaders of the electric industry to see what they need to get the power back on. so far fema has responded to those area mt. south, they've given -- in the south, they've handed out 95,000 gallons of water and delivered 250 generators. now, temperatures are going to reach 90 degrees again across the south, so power's important there. but we're seeing an uneven recovery in the south there. for the past four days, for example, new orleans was spared the major flooding because of the levee system that was in place after hurricane katrina, and that was beefed up. the outlying areas, though, underwater and in some cases cut off. so back in the northeast the governor withs of new jersey and senator chuck schumer making politics out of this disaster. listen to this. >> we've got to leap forward and get out ahead of this. any infrastructure money we get, i'll bet you a lot of it will be put into resilient infrastructure. >> global warming is upon us, and it's going to get worse, and

that's whyst it's so imperative -- why it's so imperative the pass the two bills, the infrastructure bill and the budget reconciliation bill. >> reporter: but, clearly, immediate need now in those affected areas. sick people died in alabama, mississippi, louisiana, that's the total there, about 20 people now at least have been killed in new york, new jersey and pennsylvania. so, obviously, a very deadly storm, people cleaning up in the aftermath. back to you. neil: hurt. edward, thank you very much. in light of all of this, not too shocking to see that oil has just topped $70 a barrel, the first time in about a month. there are a lot of other factors here at play; still strong demand, limited oil capacity, the shutdown of refineries and all in the gulf and what have you. but also a pick-up in overall economic numbers, we've been seeing that command should stay -- demand should stay very strong. grady trimble right now in louisiana on how they're dealing with gas shortages and the like

there. they're quite real. the president wants to address that when he visits tomorrow. it's a real problem. grady's seeing it for himself right now. grady. >> reporter: neil, the president says help is on the way and, boy, do they need it here. we've been watching people pull through here since around 7:00 this morning. some people were here as early as 2:00 in the morning to be first in line, but we're just finding some stuff out from people who have been filling up their tanks. i've been talking to lynn brown here who filled up her car and all of these gas cans for the generator -- >> only let us are $25. >> reporter: so they capped you, and you didn't know that after you waited how long in line? >> almost four hours. >> reporter: what's the situation like at your house in. >> well, i have a generator now, but i need the gas. i don't have no gas for it. >> reporter: the president says he's going to open up the strategic petroleum reserves to get fuel here, he's going to waive hour ricks for truck

drivers -- restrictions for truck drivers carrying fuel. what's your message to him in terms of how desperate you are for the bare necessities in. >> well, like i said, i needed gas, and and we need food, ice, water, you know, we don't have anything. nothing. and fema if's not helping. fema's not helping with anything. that's why we had to come out. they're not paying the hotel room. >> reporter: i'm so sorry you're going through this, and obviously, so many other people are as they're willing to wait in line for so long. so, neil, that gives you a sevens, we've been talking about the numbers -- a sense, more than 60% of gas stations here in new orleans without fuel right now. then you get to the pump and find out that it's capping you. i guess to try to end on some good news after hearing the desperation many in leadership's voice is that there's another fuel truck at the gas station on the other side of the street here. that gas station was closed as of this morning.

so we are seeing them try to get fuel, food, other supplies to this area. it's just taking some time. and this is, i believe, the fourth day now. so it's a long time to go without these essentials. neil? neil: all right, thank you, my friend, very, very much. grady trimble on that. a more staggering and sobering number, 20. for the taoism being, the number of -- time being, the number of dead in the northeast from this storm. that's just the latest number we have. let's go to bryan llenas. he's in queens, new york. that has dealt with the brunt of this, perhaps more than any other area in the northeast. what can you tell us right now, bryan? >> reporter: neil if, it's really astounding. at least 20 people dead in the tristate area between new jersey, pennsylvania and new york. we know 9 people dead here in new york, 8 of them in queens in the residential area i'm standing in and 8 of them, essentially, all living in apartments like this in the

basement. this was a family of four that was here. 4 feet of water crashed into the apartment and killed a 22-year-old and a 43-year-old, mother and son, inside. the husband and the other child were able to get out. and we know 10 miles away from here a 2-year-old boy died in a similar basement-style apartment that are not uncommon in new york city. this was epic-style weather in terms of the rain. we know central park saw 3.15 inches of rain in a single hour, that shattered the record set just 11 days ago that was 1.9 inches of rain. this was 3 inches of rain per hour in new york, and it's really historic. and we saw flooding, subways inundated, 17 trains completely blocked off because of the rain. we know that buses were also inundated, streets and highways, cars abandoned as people were rescued. the mayor says there were hundreds of rescues from

vehicles by first responders in new york city yesterday as well as about a hundred in rockland and westchester counties in the suburb ban areas north of the city. new jersey also saw 10 inches to a foot of rain in some places, in and around newark. we know a 70-year-old man died in his car there and four others died in an apartment building. and on top of that, or we know that a tornado came and busted through the malika hills community in southern new jersey, damaging multiple homes. maybe even a hundred home damaged by this tornado. all of this really surprising folks in terms of its intensity. obviously, it's historic, never seen anything like this. but mayor bill de blasio and the governor, kathy hoe cull, also -- kathy hochul, also expressed their surprise at the intensity of the event. >> [inaudible]

not sure how they to do -- [inaudible] that is the scale we're talking about. >> reporter: mayor bill de blasio said, or neil, that they were told specifically, the state officials by forecasters, that it would not be this level of rain in terms of the 3-6 inches that, you know, 3 inches per hour and that they were surprised by it. we'll see forecasters, and we've talked about in this all day, forecasters and meteorologists have said excess rainfallfall, i guess they are surprised. and i guess maybe because this is a historic record in terms of rainfall, we should be surprised because we've never seen anything quite like this. but frankly, it's tragickic. every storm that hits, it's always the flooding that causes the most deaths, and that's no different. it's just surprising in america's biggest city, in new york city, that we're seeing this number of deaths because of flooding nowadays.

and, obviously, the death toll has continued to rise in the tristate area, at least 20. neil? neil: incredible. bryan llenas, thank you very much. and to bryan's point, politicians and local government officials might have been surprised, but any cursory rundown through weather reports including those of our rick reichmuth and janice dean days before were talking about 3-6 inches of rain totals and flash floods that could be a real problem, which did pan out. and any device at all ahead of the storm, you get updated on and, you know, those noises that new bulletins come in warning about just this. so, you know, a lot of people tend to throw weather people of any persuasion under the bus when something like this happens, and but they did warn us. it's not on them. so so let's go to phil flynn right now. not on him that you have a spike in oil and energy-related prices right now, but what's interesting i guess to me right

now, phil, that you called all this. but now the president's prescription is to open up, potentially, the strategic petroleum reserve to help out here. if maybe we had kept to our prior production if, none of that would be necessary, but your thoughts. >> i think you're absolutely right. i mean, president biden is playing by the playbook, you know, to do everything he can to loosen up supplies, you know, release oil from the if reserve if it's needed, you know, change the clean air regulations, you know, allow drivers to drive more hours. that's all well and good, but if you look at this administration's energy policy from day one, it has really discourage canned u.s. production -- discouraged u.s. production if, u.s. investment in u.s. energy infrastructure, and we are now seeing that, and and we're paying the price. you know, one of the things i a thought was very interesting today, neil, was that we're all waiting for opec to raise

production, and we were all hoping, oh, good, we need more oil. and the biden administration actually congratulated -- the white house congratulated opec for raising production, and i'm, like, what about our guys here in let's let them raise production instead of thwarting them. and, you know in and we wouldn't have a market -- we would have a market that is better supplied and better able to handle things. you look at prices today, neil, things are getting worse. people are starting the look at the damage. remember, i warned yesterday with, you know, it looks like the calm before the storm. people are starting to realize how bad some of the infrastructure is shut down. the gulf production not coming on as quickly as possible, we hear reports from some refiners they could be down as much as three weeks to a month, and that means supplies are going to be squeezed. what i also am worried about is not just gas prices, i'm worried about this winter. the lack of production in the gulf of mexico on natural gas means we could see sharply

higher heating bills this winter. so we're going to be paying for this storm, i'm afraid, for the rest of the year. neil: yeah. but we put ourselves, you know, not on the storm front, but in this position, oil and energy, because it was an either/or type of a choice here. we have a lot of energy, a lot of oil and all the production methods, to your point, why not keep using that? by all means, explore wind and solar and all the other things, but not one at the expense of another particularly when we're a world leader. phil, thank you, my friend, very much. >> thank you. neil: we'll keep you up-to-date on some of these startling images we are getting in the northeast that shows something you would normally think, all right, this happened in the south. we're looking at louisiana, right? we're looking at mississippi. ono, no, it's coming from up north, and now talk that new england is bracing for maybe not as bad, but still pretty rough

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american citizens along with the ten of thousands of afghan allies including the majority of those siv applicants. now, among those stranded includes an interpreter known as mohamed who helped rescue then-senator joe biden in 2008

when his helicopter made an emergency landing. he's now pleading to the president to take him and his family. >> we could die at home if there is no way i can escape from my house. but only i and my, my son have a passport. the rest of the family do not have. it's very hard to go -- [inaudible] >> reporter: the plan for americans is still unclear as dangerous ground routes appear to be the only option right now. state department spokesman ned price says they are working the find ways to get people out. >> specific individuals in afghanistan to include american citizens and others who may have recently decided they wish to leave the country or were unable to leave the country during the evacuation or might decide tomorrow or next month or next year that they wish to leave the country. they will receive specific,

tailored messages from us as we develop and start to operationalize these plans. >> reporter: meanwhile, the state department busy with their other focus, the resettling and vetting of tens of thousands of refugees amid growing concerns that individuals or isis elements could slip through the cracks. this as that new diplomatic mission that the state department pulled out of afghanistan or relocated in doha, qatar, has to figure out how to work with the new afghan government. we expect to stand up at some point lots of questions over whether we can trust them to help anyone till get out along with helping us conduct counterterrorism actions if need be. neil? neil: yeah. a lot of those in there need more than words, to your point. give general kiss, thank you, my friend -- griff jenkins. to an expert trying to get those stuck in the country out of the country, particularly americans and a few hundred, up to 60en --

600 students at american university there. easier said than done, kelly. what do you make of the state department's claims right now on they'll be able to get out? >> well, first, thank you for having me on. i think the state department comment around people who have recently decided, specifically those americans, that they want to come home, there's been nothing recent about it. these people, neil, have been waiting and waiting for a phone call and waiting for a text that has never come. i can just tell you right now from an exfiltration standpoint if, we only have bad options, neil. it is open season on americans, and anyone who follows the ideals of the u.s. these people are going to die x they're going to die badly if we don't get them out, those expillation -- neil: so do you have help in that regard? i know we're on delay, i

apologize. without u.s. troops there, there's very little incentive right now for the taliban to do anything, right? i mean, will they just sort of step aside and just let them go? who lets them go? who helps them out of the country? >> well, the taliban really never will let anyone step aside, and we have seen that in the last few weeks. what we do need, though, is support from the u.s. government because we have identified the people. i have multiple groups, neil, specifically americans. the administration can throw out numbers, but so can i. 50. 50 is number of americans that i have have right now with u.s. passports and their families to total 101 people who cannot get out of afghanistan. 174. 174 are the number of special immigrant visa holders that have served side by side with our military who are in the same precarious situation. and last but not least, 600. 600 of american students of the american university-afghanistan

are stranded in safe houses with no voice, no place to go, and we are the only ones left. and when i say "we," i mean volunteers like myself who are going outside and unsanctioned by the u.s. government to get these people out. neil: i'm just wondering, i mean, what is the taliban doing then? i mean, have -- have any of the students or anyone else been in contact with the taliban? are the taliban seeking them out? what's going on, do you know? >> yes. so unequivocally, yes, the taliban are seeking them out and the individuals right now that i'm trying to grant safe passage to. and something that's kind of of important, so a lot of narratives have been talked about as far as the taliban going door to door. let me be very clear, the taliban, they're not selling girl scout cookies when they're going door to door. if they do not find the person of interest that has either worked with, you know, an afghan national army person or a

student of the american university-afghanistan, they are take a family member, incarcerate them and wait for that person to come out of hiding. they -- we have reports on the ground that they are taking head scarfs off of women with, burning their hair, raping and killing them or hanging them, or they become property of the taliban. so this is the narrative right now on the ground. we have to now tell people that we have kept in hiding for the last several weeks that, hey, guys, it's no longer going to be hours until we can get you out, it's going to be days and weeks, so you're going to have to come out of your safe houses in order to get food and supplies, and that's a choice they're going to have to make, one that could be fatal. neil: that makes them more of a target. do they think that the government is going to come to their rescue, that the u.s. government is going to coordinate something as the state department said is, this financial leverage that we have? what do they think of that? >> i think from the

psychological standpoint, i think desperation is now coming into play. as you can imagine, they've been in safe houses throughout different cities now for weeks. i can tell you that i am very transparent with each of the groups that i have been working with. i can tell you that i reached out, neil, to some of the highest levels of government the request safe passage specifically for these americans and the students of the american university-afghanistan, and my request was denied. we can't get into another cup without the u.s. government -- country without the u.s. government providing assurances to that country like jordan or ukraine, that we, united states9 of america, will process visa services when they land which brings us all right back to the drawing board. you are now in a country completely surrounded, borders and all, taliban walking the streets, in our weapons, armored cars and humvees hunting every single person who has supported us and the ideals we have brought from the west. neil: that is very scarily. kelly, what's not scary is your

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♪ neil: all right. it could be just me, but we might be losing our itch to travel. probably not a good idea, says the cdc, but then you have in this tsa report that shows traffic at turnstiles in airports and at homeland security checkpoints, the lowest it has been since going back to date. remember when a lot of people's flights were canceled or just outright gone and thousands were stuck at airports across the

country in or it could be all the grief of flying in general or the fact that a lot of countries aren't allowing our fliers into their country on concerns about spikes in cases here. but whatever's going on, it's something we should be paying attention to and, if jared levy is right, making note of. if something like this keeps spreading, obviously, you call the recovery from the pandemic into question or it could drag it out. what do you think's going on in. >> so it's important to keep in mind here, first of all, the recovery that we're seeing in america is not what's going on in most of the rest of the world, right? i mean, just the majority of countries out there are really struggling. in fact, what's interesting is in the asia-pacific region, international traffic is 90% below pre-pandemic levels. pretty amazing, right? we know airlines have scaled themselves back purposefully, right? saving themselves from complete demise. just trying -- they shuttered

all their international travel, qantas. so when you said that folks are really scared to travel, because of, you know, getting covid. but the majority because it's within been a mess. i mean, you can't -- i've been about three or four flights the past two months, every single one was delayed, there were always complications, big, long lines. so how do we play that? i think what we're going to see here in america is probably, again, getting back to that local business, the regional business, those guys are going to garner some love and spending from consumers. i think americans are shifting some of their grandiose travel plans to canada and mexico, flight two, three hour flight. if i get bumped, no big deal, i'll come hang out here. so it's major adjustments here socially. neil: but the idea that it's affected travel in some parts of the country is weird because you get this report in new york that the tourists are back and not

leaving, bookings are strong. but the return to in-person work in manhattan keeps getting pushed back, so the tourists kind of rule the streets. not so much the workers. >> yeah. remember new york, right? that tristate area and really going down to washington and up into boston, you've got hundreds of -- millions of people crammed into that area. they can easily get into new york and, you know, for certain areas, listen, they're going to garner that love. in terms of workers, you know, we saw it was pushed back in work plans, january 2022. there's a big shift happening there. i, i'll tell you, neil, i'm a little concerned, you know, that this great resignation -- i'm just going to cut it for one second -- you know, how does that all a play in, right? we're scared to go anywhere, we don't want to go to work, people

are taking off, and there's price increases. so where does it end? at what point do we say, you know, nobody's working, prices are, you know, 20, 30% from where they were just a couple years ago, something's gotta give. and i think, frankly, it's going to be a rude awakening for the average consumer in 2-3 years end when our economy false off a cliff. and, again, i'm not trying to scare anybody, but i feel we're getting to that point and, obviously, travel really going the feel it. especially airline manufacturers are an area i would probably stay away from in the future, boeing, airbus. neil: i hope you're wrong. we'll watch what happens. jared levy following all these developments. bumps along the road in this recovery but, again, they're pretty severe when you read the european price and their reluctance and their own spike in cases to make anything worse by accepting travelers from abroad including americans. it kind of just feeds on itself.

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>> it was like a war zone. i just couldn't believe everywhere, he kept slamming on his brakes because this a wire down or a tree, and i'm like, our community is just destroyed. in five seconds, that's all it took. >> yep. >> heartbreaking. >> we'll rebuild, we'll stay with you. neil: all right. governor phil murphy of new jersey talking to a resident there who kind of lost everything right now and wondering if and when she can recover. she's not the only one. david lee miller, new jersey hit hard. >> reporter: indeed, it did, neil. according to local reports, tree major rivers in new jersey are yet to crest, and that means things could get worst before they start to improve. at this location where we're broadcasting from in passaic, new jersey, you can see water

pouring out of a sewer down the street. this is dirty water. the good thing that we have noticed though in the last hour or so is that at this one location at least the water seems to be receding. that, however, is not the case at other locations throughout the state because, as you point out, new jersey has been hit so very hard by the aftermath of hurricane ida. there are five confirmed deaths because of the storm in new jersey, and that number might have been higher if not for the heroic efforts of first responders. in one instance, they pulled two people from a submerged car. a third, though, was swept bodi. four people were trapped in a home in elizabeth, new jersey. all of them died. and a numb of people were pluck -- number of people were plucked from the roofs of their homes in other communities in new jersey and rescued by boat. in at least one location, a

tornado touched down. one family barely got out of their basement alive. and south of here in montgomery county, pennsylvania, the community there also ravaged by the storm. three people killed at one housing complex and others rescued from the roofs of their homes. also throughout the entire region, neil, hundreds of roads remain closed. we're also told that bridges are damaged or destroyed. liberty newark airport was partially flooded this morning and had to cancel more than 300 flights. there is reports now that a there's an improvement when it comes to getting the electricity back on, but there are still 125,000 customers without power in new jersey and pennsylvania. so, yes, the sun is out, the sky is blue, but there's still a great deal to be accomplished when it comes to recovering from

this storm. neil. neil: thank you, my friend, very much. david lee miller in passaic, new jersey. you know, think about also, and david touched on it, all of these businesses, restaurants that were just sort of getting their sea legs here and then they're flattedded. a good -- flooded. a good example is the central park boat house owner, it's really an icon you can -- not so much a secret in new york, middle of central park, but for great food, weddingsings, gatherings, it is a go-to place and right now a flooded place. dean, how are things looking? >> better now than it was at 5:00 in the morning. i received a call at 5, 5:15 that the dining room was under 5 inches of water with. neil: wow. >> come 9:00 or so the lake went down about a 5 inches. right now as we speak the restaurant is open, the outside bar is not. that's under about a foot and a

half of water. and the water and the dining, at the level the dining room is, about 1 inch below the dining room floor. the staff did a great job, they rallied, they got the place cleaned up, and the restaurant is actually open right now as we speak with the exception of the outside bar. neil: i'm glad to hear that. you know, dean, i was thinking of you and a lot of others in the business of serving people and, you know, how much more can you take, right? you get through the pandemic, you deal with that, then you reopen, your low call customers and -- loyal customers and those who just like the special, unique event that your boathouse can offer, and then, boom, mother nature hits you with this. you've got to test your patients. >> it does. i mean, how many hints can you take? -- hits can you take? we close the restaurant, reopen, close again, reopen, now we're checking vaccinations and it's

like a roller coaster, up and down. right now as we speak the restaurant is open, but we're certainly not doing the type of volume that we're accustomed of doing on what turned out to be a very beautiful day. neil: you know, when you have to check -- i'd almost forgotten about that -- vaccinations, how is that process going s and how do customers react? >> our staff have been terrific. they've really made every effort to get to work, and we haven't lost much staff due to covid. and so we're thin but we are pulley staffed. fully staffed. today many people got here very late. many people come to work by subway, and the subways weren't working. it took me three hours because those who couldn't take mass if transit were on the road, and the roads were not only congested with the volume of traffic, but also the disabled cars that were in the way.

neil: how are your people holding up through this? >> pretty good. i, they're a tough bunch. you know, being we're an outside restaurant, we've endured the major heat that a we've had, those 95-degree-plus days and then it gets cold. we have a short season here. you know, we're a seasonal restaurant. so they, they take advantage of the good weather to make the money when the business is here because come january, february, march it's a quiet restaurant. so the staff is, they're a tough bunch and we're very proud of them. they do a great job. neil: i think the most important question, do you till have the bacon-wrapped monk fish? [laughter] >> as a matter of fact we do. yes. neil: great. i'm on my way. i'm on my way. [laughter] no, it's a great institution, and you're to be commended. you keep spirits up and new new

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♪♪ neil: you know, the focus has been on the victorious taliban now controlling afghanistan, but, you know, they're not quite out of troubles of their own. they're in a whale of insurgenting fighting in northern afghanistan, so they don't have the whole country locked down. and then they're desperate for money, $9.5 billion at a minimum have been frozen, not yet available to the taliban. increasingly, that's a what the administration and state department talk about when they mention leverage and incentives for the taliban to behave. but are those the kinds of things that will force the taliban to behave? ambassador nathan sales joins us, counterterrorism, atlantic council senior president, this man knows of what he speaks. so, ambassador, that's been the argument, right? that the taliban needs us. they need our money, they need

our support. and that's why they won't do anything wacky. but we've gotten reports that they've been doing a number of things pretty wacky and pretty violent. so what do you think of that? >> well, i think, neil, we have enormous leverage over the taliban, and we need to use every bit of leverage we have to get our people back, to make sure that the counterterrorism objectives in afghanistan are met and so on. neil: what is that leverage, ambassador? i hear the leverage, it seems to me to be code word for money, but they rose the take over the country fully aware of that, and the money didn't seem to be an issue for them then or a reason to fear now. so what are they reacting to? >> so right now, neil, the taliban is subject to sweeping terrorism sanctions at the united nations and under u.s. law, and i think we need to keep those sanctions in place and not make a move to lift them until

the taliban changes its behavior. that, i think, key. we can't be offering gestures in advance in the hope that they prompt the taliban to behave themselves. any kind of sanctions relief, any kind of gesture from the united states has to come if and only if the taliban moderates their behavior; i.e., help us get our people home, respect human rights, top going door to door to kill the -- neil: ambassador, including -- and you know them better than i, sir, but i'm just wondering, they don't seem to want to do that. and maybe things can change and they will, but they don't seem wired to be cooperative or even humane. so what then? >> well, i think you're right to be skeptical, neil. they're doing a charm offensive now, but we shouldn't be duped. just because they're saying things that are palatable to western audiences when the cameras are there doesn't mean

their actions are going to live up to their words, so i think we need to be deeply skeptical that the taliban is going to to govern in a way that is inclusive or respects human rights. and until we see any evidence of that, i think we have to preserve our sanctions in place and refuse to unfreeze any of the funds, the $9.5 billion that you mentioned. all of that has to be locked down until we see demonstrable progress by the taliban. and like you said, we have good reason to be skeptical that they're going the change their spots. neil: i know power and control in this country can come and go because we just found out with isis-k that there are a lot of guys who want to take control and do things, and they're not fans of the taliban. we were just mentioning these battles the taliban has been having in northern afghanistan and other parts. they don't have the entire country nailed down, as i said. is there any scenario that you see where they could lose that power? >> i think so. the taliban is not a legitimate government in the eyes of the vast majority of afghans. and i think the afghanistan that

we know, the people of afghanistan, will be looking for credible alternatives such as the resistance movements you just mentioned. and i think the united states needs to do whatever we can to bolster these resistance movements as alternatives to the taliban. these could be sanctuaries for people who are fleeing the inevitable human rights abuses that the taliban will be committing, and might also be gooddown terrorism -- good counterterrorism allies. neil: all right. ambassador, thank you. ambassador nathan sales following all these developments. again, the taliban has anticipated right now it is in full control of the country, but to the ambassador's point, not the entire country. the reason why they want to pounce and use those weapons that were left behind including those that are now inoperable, we're told, or they're seeking outside expertise to make them

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♪. neil: you know, they say markets climb a wall of worry. a lot of worry thrown at markets. they continue to move up. it is economy for them remains for focus, improvement seems to come on covid front, with fewer cases being reported. we saw in the latest jobless claims figures 340,000.

the lowest number of pandemic period. furthermore news that layoffs are at a 24-year low, people being look for jobs, the environment is very, very strong the likes of amazon, walmart, looking at tens of thousands of workers, they want them right now. that is a good backdrop to have with scary times everywhere else. here is lauren simonetti. lauren: i'm lauren simonetti in for charles payne. this is "making money." number of americans seeking unemployment falling to the lowest level of the pandemic. what does today's good number mean for tomorrow's big jobs report? what will it mean for the fed when will they start taking away the punchbowl? i'm asking larry kudlow coming up. the death toll rises as remnants of hurricane ida barrels into the northeast, flooding